In this episode, Megan Buer is back on the pod to…
follow-up on the results of Lindsey’s first 2 Emotion Code sessions and discuss the specific trapped emotions in Lindsey’s body
share the concept that whatever happens in the physical body has happened first energetically
introduce emotional concepts that can be healed with The Emotion Code such as “idea allergy”, “negative cord”, “organ misalignment”, and ” addictive heart energy” and inherited emotions
discuss the rejection of authentic feminine nature and how conservative Christianity perpetuates keeping women disconnected from their bodies
discuss how the body subconsciously stores emotions and will even create symptoms as a protective mechanism against things we may not identify with or even understand
discuss how the reverberation of emotions can be inherited, which supports the need to heal ancestral trauma
encourage listeners to get back into pleasure by getting back into the body
expose how religion and society have created confusion and trauma in women’s bodies and in women’s sexuality with guilt, shame, and rules
encourage women to listen to their intuition because intuition will always lead us to pleasure, to what is good, and to connection with ourselves and others
talk about how Megan gets out of her head by focusing her energy on her root chakra and asking her pussy what it wants
Megan also does a live Emotion Code session with Lindsey and clears more trapped emotions
[INTRO MUSIC] Hi there friends. Welcome back to the podcast. I have a special treat in store for you today. I am having Meghan Buer from episode seven, back on the podcast today to do a follow-up of the emotion code that she did for me after we finished episode seven. And we’re also going to talk about repression of feminine energy and healing through pleasure and pussy awareness. So in this episode, we’re gonna expand on the emotion code and also talk about another aspect of Megan’s work, which is the body code. We’re going to share the concept that whatever happens in the physical body has already happened first, energetically. We’re going to introduce terms to you, like idea, allergy addictive, heart energy, organ, misalignment, and negative cord. We’re going to discuss inherited emotional traumas. We’re also going to discuss the rejection of our authentic feminine nature and for Megan and I, how conservative Christian religion perpetuated that repression and also the repression of our sexual nature. We’re going to talk about shifting energy through space and time and the work that Megan does with the emotion code. Megan’s also gonna do a live emotion code at clearing session for me. So she’s actually going to be going through her emotion code stuff, using applied kinesiology and testing and clearing emotions for me. And I wanted to do that with Megan on the podcast so that you could get an idea of what it’s like to work with her. Super fun and interesting. And then we’re going to just give some practical ideas and stories for like the struggles that we’ve had with being disconnected from our bodies, especially as women in a culture that is very patriarchal, very masculine driven, and has shamed women for centuries and centuries about our bodies and our sexuality and our sexual pleasure. There’s a lot to unpack there. And Megan and I both are sort of on this journey. I would say she’s further along in the process than I am, but she’s been very insightful for me in this episode because I would say that sexual repression is the part of my trauma healing journey that I have made the least amount of progress in. And so I walked away from this interview with Megan with like action steps that I can take to allow things in my life to allow pleasure in my body, to get in touch with my pelvis and the part of my body that holds all of that sexual energy. And really it’s going to require me to get out of my head and I’m so in my head about sex and I always have been because there’s so much just trauma and confusion um In me about that from religion and the conservative Christian the town that I grew up in and just like the messages that I was taught about dating and sex and my body and clothing and modesty. It’s just, it’s all connected. And so if you are a woman or you identify as a woman, and you’ve really struggled with feeling sexual repression and shame or guilt around sex, and you feel disconnected from your body and it’s uncomfortable to be in that space, then you’re gonna love this episode. You’re gonna get a ton out of it. So let’s get going. Let’s talk about healing or pressed feminine energy and getting back in touch with our pussies and writing pleasure into our lives and healing through pleasure. LINDSEY: Hello, Megan. Welcome back to the podcast. MEGAN: Thank you. How are you doing? How are you feeling since we’ve done two sessions together? LINDSEY: I feel worse. Is it okay for me to say that? I just have to be totally transparent. I feel worse. So who, maybe they haven’t listened to our first episode together, they can go back and listen. That’s episode seven of the show. And in that episode, we talked all about your work as an emotion code practitioner and releasing the trapped emotions that get stored in our body as a result of trauma and how those emotions get stuck. And the body doesn’t process them through. And our bodies just hold on to those emotions. And then over time that can cause pain or symptoms or, whatever. And so my chief complaint was that I’d had this mysterious pain in my right hip for months and months now. And I thought maybe I’d hurt myself, but I haven’t. I’ve Been to physical therapy about it. I’ve been to the chiropractor about it. They’d make minor little adjustments, but they can’t really say this is the cause of your pain. And, it’s it’s been interesting. It’s been unlike any pain I’ve ever had, but after our two sessions, like the hips started hurting more frequently and the pain is now spread into my lower back. And there’s just feels like a lot of tension and a lot of, pain and it has been uncomfortable. So I’m hoping you can shed some light on that for me. MEGAN: Absolutely. My first question is outside of the hip, has anything come up for you since the session? So a lot of times, again, when we’re working on the physical level is where everything happens last. So the symptoms are the, that shows up last and it heals last. so more on a psyche level or an emotional level, has anything good or bad, like been stirred up or seem to shift or anything like that? That’s I want to ask that question first and then get into the hip. LINDSEY: Yes. So pretty much immediately after our conversation and the first session that you did for me, I interviewed, Chelsea Horton and we talked all about relationship, anxiety. And as we were talking, I realized, Oh my gosh, I have relationship anxiety. And so that has been present ever since then. And there’s no reason for me to have anxiety about my relationship. David and I have, we’ve certainly been through a lot, but I would say that our commitment to each other, the depth of our relationship, and that there’s a sweetness there that, there’s always been a sweetness between us, but there’s just like a really endearing sweetness that’s there. But I still have this relationship, anxiety, and, it’s probably, this may be TMI for a lot of people. My husband and I both have a pretty significant amount of sexual repression from being raised in evangelical Christianity. And, for him, like for me, my sex drive has never been like crazy high ever. For him it’s like he’s had, I would say normal sex drive, but he’s had to repress that a lot because he’s not a jerk and he’s not like he’s never pressured me or guilted me into having a sexual relationship. And so whenever I said no, or I don’t feel like it or whatever, there’s never been any guilt or shame or pressure, it’s just, it’s been okay. But I think for him, there’s been some repression in himself in addition to the repression and trauma from purity culture. So long story short, he has actually also been dealing with some just like low sexual energy. And my husband is a master Reiki healer also. And like he has explained to me that he just sees that as there’s some sort of an energetic block happening and he’s been working with himself and, moving energy and doing Reiki on himself. But it sounds like Oh my gosh, they’re just having sex issues in their marriage. I think both of us are at the place where we’re like, you know what. It’s okay for us to feel this way where we’re actually, we’ve been taking a pretty extended break from being sexual, and we’ve just been enjoying, like doing other things together and, just like binge watching Outlander and, holding hands in bed or like scooting over and just like cuddling or whatever. And so there’s definitely still intimacy. But it’s not sexual and neither one of us feels pressure for there to be sexual, happenings. But like for me having the relationship anxiety in the back of my head, I’m going, Oh my gosh, there’s no sex happening in our relationship. Something’s wrong. Even though like my higher self knows that everything is fine. So that I would say is the biggest sort of psyche thing that’s come up since the last time you and I talked. MEGAN: Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. I think again, because what we established already was that right hip is correlated with a partner. So obviously spouse, and as women, we hold a lot of energy in our hips. We got a lot of sexual energy in our hips. And I think, and again, we’re talking more about sex than we are emotion code, which is fine. But I think for you specifically, like really tapping into let’s look at your relationship with yourself. So you can have a sexual relationship with David, but you need a sexual relationship with yourself as well. And I think that is such a huge reclaiming. That is such a huge part of healing, the religious trauma and healing all of the guilt and the shame and the confusion around sex that we grew up with, so like reclaiming that part of yourself. And, I think even just, moving, like dancing, like really getting into your body, getting into your hips, like that is just trapped energy. That’s literally all it is. And so it’s, I think what, It got it’s been stirred up. We’ve identified what the issue is. We’ve cleared out some stuff and your body is like, There’s more let’s keep going. Yeah, like there’s more like she’s getting this now. Let’s get rid of this. And so I think it’s, let’s clear some more emotions, but I think on your end, it’s turn on some sexy music and like just dance, like just move and it doesn’t have to be for anybody and it doesn’t have to be pretty and it doesn’t have to be anything. It can just be for you just moving your hips around and like just touching into, and it doesn’t even have to be about sex. It can just be about like sensuality, like literally like touching into our senses, getting out of the head, getting into the body, like feeling your hip and feeling your skin on your hip and feeling, just smelling something like just getting into that sensual nature helps the body feel more safe to release and release and release. And that’s what we want to do is instead of holding on and figuring out and staying in the brain, we want to get in the body and we want to soften and relax and move and allow ourselves to pull off another layer, pull off another layer, pull off another layer. So I think it’s really recognizing that growing up in a culture where we learned that sex was either bad or it was really good for making babies. And that’s it. That actually sex is one of the most healing things that we can do as biological human species. And, it’s connecting. it’s everything that our brains and our bodies and our emotions need. It’s connecting. It’s invigorating. It’s enlivening. And so it heals our body and our mind on so many deep levels. And so for you, I think is just tapping into that a little bit more, like getting to that place where you’re exploring that for yourself. Not for anybody else, just for you and finding joy and pleasure in whatever way that means, you know right now. LINDSEY: Yeah. Okay. I actually told my husband the other day when we were having a conversation about this, that I don’t think either one of us has ever had a completely pure sexual experience. And I don’t mean pure from the evangelical standpoint, virginity and purity and all that nonsense. I don’t mean that, pure, like neither one of us has ever had a sexual experience that has not also been tainted by guilt or shame, or even just feeling is this okay? And he agreed that we’ve never had that experience and we’ve been together for 19 years. I think that’s huge that we’re both able to recognize that and we know this isn’t a problem in our relationship. This is not a sign that we don’t have a healthy relationship. It’s not a sign that we aren’t supposed to be together. Like it’s not a sign of any of that. It’s just, here’s, what’s come to the surface. We have this awareness now and it’s manifesting for both of us differently. And for me, it’s like manifesting as pain and stiffness in my low back and hip. And for him, it’s manifesting as literally feeling like his, he’s literally said, I just, I feel like my Qi bummed up, so it’s, and like I’ve been coming in my office, closing the door, turning on, not sexy music, but just like whatever feels right at the time and just moving around my office and dancing and that does feel good. And it feels, I don’t know that I can name anything that’s moving through me, but it feels like something is moving. So I have my list here pulled up from the first session that you did with me. And I want to tell everyone the emotions that you cleared: rejection insecurity, fear, discouragement, grief, unsupported, unworthy, blaming sadness, panic, overjoy, horror, blaming vulnerability, lost and peeved. So those are the things that you cleared after my first session. You also cleared excess stress hormones, addictive heart energy, idea allergy, ovary misalignment, and mental image. I’m wondering if you can explain idea allergy, addictive heart energy and ovary misalignment? MEGAN: Yes. Okay. So we’ll ovary misalignment. We’ve got our physical body. We also have our energy body. Energetically again, I think of the subconscious and the energy body is like the beginning of the train and the physical body is the caboose. And so whatever happens physically has already happened energetically first. Okay. Basically the train has been going down this track of having an ovary misalignment, and then it creates that physically. And so what I’m doing on the energetic levels, I’m just moving that train back. Like I’m just shifting it, and it can take a little bit of time for the caboose to catch up, but, but basically we can energetically realign, whatever we need to, if it’s an ovary or a lung or a vertebrae in the spine, we can shift where it is, on the energetic level. So that’s what that is. The addictive heart energy is, basically our heart’s desire. Like all of us have to feel love, joy, acceptance, connection. It is basically that energy has been off track to something else. So rather than feeling joy, love and connection from maybe ourselves or from another person or a healthy aspect, we start feeling those feelings with something else. So this can be anything from scrolling Facebook and eating Ben and Jerry’s, or it can be, really intense stuff like, drugs and, whatever. So you can have a whole range of quote unquote addictions. But it’s basically just taking something that maybe isn’t the best for you and replacing that with something that would be better. An idea allergy. This is one of the most interesting things, and I love to clear these. When I started getting this work done with my practitioner, she was just doing the emotion code, which was the emotions you listed. That’s the emotion code. The other stuff is body code stuff. And, I, when I was working with her, she was just doing emotion code. We’d have a session. I’d feel better for like about a week and a half, two weeks. And then all my symptoms would come back. We’d have a session. I feel better for a week or so. And it was this whole cycle that just kept going. And then when she started doing body code, the first thing that came up was an idea allergy to being healthy. And so basically once she cleared that’s when things finally started really sticking for me. And basically the idea allergy is on a subconscious level, our body is pushing away something that’s actually good for us. So I have cleared idea allergies to all sorts of things. We don’t you don’t necessarily have to identify what it is, but sometimes people want it identified. Idea allergies to joy or wealth or success or love or self care, or, all sorts of things where the body starts to think that something is not safe or not good, and it pushes it away. One really interesting story that I had from a client years and years ago, she grew up in Italy and she came to me with these different complaints and she said, listen, like I’m Italian. I love pasta. It’s just a part of my life. That’s a part of my culture. I can’t eat it. Every time I eat pasta, I get sick. She goes, but it’s not a wheat allergy. Like I can eat bread. I can eat cakes. I can eat like whatever, and I’m fine, but it’s just pasta. And I was like, she’s I don’t know. That’s so random, but I just wonder if there’s anything you could do about that. And I was like, huh, that’s really interesting. And so I’m digging around and trying to find some stuff. So then she starts telling me that as a kid, she was just talking about her Italian, like heritage. And she was like, every night at dinner, we would have pasta with whatever we were having. There was always pasta on the table. And I just miss that so much. I want to be able to do that. And for whatever reason in my mind, I said, okay, what else was happening at dinner? When you were a kid, tell me about family dinner as a kid. And she goes, Oh, every single day we would sit down at a table and mom and dad would start fighting every single night my parents would have a fight. And I said, Oh, this is very interesting. And I said, your subconscious has identified. What our subconscious will do is when we’re in a stressful or traumatic situation, I E our parents fighting at the dinner table or whatever it is, It will look around and say, I need to protect myself. I need to make sure this doesn’t happen again. I need to create a symptom. And so what her body was basically doing was saying every time she would try to eat pasta, it would create this symptom for her. And it would again, like pushing it away. Just if you really were allergic to dairy, if you ate dairy, you’d get sick, you would your body would reject it. So her body was literally rejecting that because it was subconsciously on the psyche level, bringing up memories of her childhood trauma. It was an idea allergy. We cleared that, and every, I would say probably every six months, this was years ago, every six months or so she’ll send me a quick email and just be like still eating pasta. I’m like, that’s amazing. LINDSEY: Wow. Fascinating. Fascinating. It just makes me, the more I do this podcast, all these interviews that I’ve been doing in almost every episode we keep coming back to, our bodies and like how, really, in fact, I had someone ask me yesterday and it’s on Instagram. They asked, how do I stop thinking like an evangelical when it comes to sex, life, like all of these things? And my response was, you think you’re thinking like an evangelical. You’re not thinking like an evangelical, your body is behaving like one, because you either had to force it to adapt to the trauma that you were experiencing. Or you were told that this is how you were supposed to respond or, whatever. It’s not cognitive.; You can’t think your way out of. What you think is a thought, because it’s not a thought, it’s your body’s response. And so that’s such a great example of, like her body was letting her know very loudly in a way that maybe didn’t make sense to her or in a way that maybe she couldn’t have deciphered without your help. But, her body was letting her know it wasn’t the pasta that I don’t like. It’s this like discord and strife in your family. And I’m giving you this physical symptom to let you know, Hey, pay attention. MEGAN: Yeah, I know. And it’s, again, it’s so random, like a lot of times we’re so disconnected that we would never sit down and think Oh, this pasta is on a psyche level reminding me of my childhood. And my childhood reminds me of mom and dad fighting. And that reminds me of how, we’re just, that’s not, but that’s what I as an intuitive that’s what I’m able to do is see these patterns. And, as soon as she starts talking about family dinner, I’m like, there it is. That’s something like keep talking, so I think it’s really it’s just interesting to notice the web of how our bodies create. It’s like a computer, the subconscious to me is like a computer where there is input and there’s output. And we, with the right tools, we do have some control over that. We can go in and delete some of these old programs and put in something better. And we have the tools to do that. And I think it’s just recognizing that, and for this woman who asked the question, like it’s just a program in the subconscious that you’re, that your body is responding to sex in this way. Because we can change our thoughts any moment. Like it’s not that it’s the subconscious response that the body is being triggered into and it is hard. It can be difficult to move through that. I think we have so many tools, but it’s just recognizing that we’re so much more powerful than all the beliefs and all the trauma and all the stress. Like we really are more powerful than that. And I think even with the word trauma, we hear that and we’re like, we just become submissive to that word. It’s Oh my gosh, trauma. That’s something I could never get over since it’s something I could never, you know move past, but we really can, and we these tools to manipulate the subconscious in a healthy way. And then we also have the power of our bodies and the power of our minds to make a different choice when we encounter those old triggers. LINDSEY: Wow. Yeah, I have my other lists pulled up here after your second clearing with me. So you cleared and some of these were the same. So I might repeat myself from the last list, but hopelessness, shock, depression, lack of control, dread, failure, self-blame, sorrow peeved again, all your inherited. So you’ve got failure by itself and then failure inherited. So I’m curious about that. You also cleared rejection of authentic feminine nature, a negative chord, which I don’t know what that is, the emotional reverberation of self-blame, and sexual repression energy, which makes total sense. So start it inherited failure. Tell me what that means. Tell me what a rejection of authentic feminine nature, the negative chord and the emotional reverberation of self-blame . MEGAN: Okay. So an inherited emotion is basically just an emotion that has been passed down from mom or dad and possibly passed down from grandma or grandpa, or however far up the line. So in the same way that at the moment of conception, we have DNA and we have, it’s all set that, your eyes are going to be this color and your hair is going to be that color, that we also inherit emotional traumas as well, and that stuff is passed down and that’s all it is that is just that, letting you know that this is not yours originally, this is someone else’s. But I love clearing those emotions because they’re so powerful because we’re doing healing, not just for you; we’re doing healing for generations past and generations coming up. And, as we get this stuff out of your field, we’re getting it out of so many other people’s and I think of it, again, thinking of things like a web, we have this one emotion that has created all of these different experiences. And as we pull that out, we are healing so many people at the same time. And that’s why I love working with women because especially moms, like we hold the key, and if mom is feeling good and healed and is clear, so are the kids, it’s. It’s fascinating. And then so a negative cord is, the same way that we can feel love and connection for someone, take a spouse or a child, we have an emotional connection or cord with someone and those can be positive or negative. And negative ones are, it’s like somebody that you’re immediately triggered by, or it’s somebody that, you’re just passing junk back and forth to. Or maybe it’s somebody, as soon as you see that person, you fall back into this old negative self or something. So it can be with anybody. It can be small, big, it’s just that it’s there. And, again, most of the stuff we don’t need to identify further than that, but it’s just, a negative connection with somebody basically. The rejection of authentic feminine nature was not something that is on my emotion code list, but it’s something that just came intuitively. And that’s really where I was feeling that sexual repression and the feminine nature was like, what kept coming up for me, for you during that session when I would focus in, on the hip and like really seeing, tapping into the energy of yes, the pain is there, but what is the pain? What is it? And that’s what I kept coming up for me. And so I think, especially based on our conversation earlier about sensuality and sexuality and trying to explore that for yourself like that, I feel like will help move that. So as we reject our authentic feminine nature, meaning we live by someone else’s rules instead of our own, basically, we start to repress pleasure. And especially as women growing up in a conservative Christian religion, we learned that our feminine nature is we are here to serve men. We are here to have babies and. That’s about it. and that is not authentic feminine nature. That is us being told what to do. And and maybe, I have a friend who she is the most well adjusted, authentic person I’ve ever met. And she, that’s what she does. She has, I think 11 kids and she is the happiest person. That’s what she wants to do. And that’s amazing. Like she has chosen that for herself. And so it’s not, I’m not on here saying Oh, if you’re being an authentic feminine, like you shouldn’t be married and have kids and be a stay at home mom, no, that’s bullshit. You can do whatever you want. And that’s, I think giving yourself the freedom of saying, okay, It’s all okay. And so if you want to be a mom and you want to be home and you want to cook and clean, there is nothing wrong with that. Beautiful. Do it. If that’s not your calling, if you’re not pulled towards that’s okay, too. And so it’s really just, if we’re thinking about sexuality or we’re thinking about careers or we’re thinking about whatever, it’s just saying that’s okay. And just because you’re a female doesn’t mean that you necessarily have to do these certain things or not do certain things. So that’s in a nutshell, what I was clearing is just that repression of, What do I really? Who am I really without this? And I remember feeling that way, just, being told my whole life that, it, like the goal is get married and have kids. That’s it. So I got married and I had kids and I was like really unhappy and no, it was like, this is bullshit. I thought I was going to be okay. so happy. yeah. And it’s not to say that I didn’t enjoy my life. It was just that I had not been able to choose that for myself. I was told to do that. And, there was other parts of me I was not able to explore. And now I have a much more well-rounded sense of self, where I have my kids and I love my kids. And I love that part of myself, but I also love my career and I love being single and being able to explore my sexuality in different ways. And, so yeah. LINDSEY: I do want to point out, for people who potentially are hearing you describe things like having babies and cooking and cleaning and staying home. And like when we’re talking about feminine nature, we’re not necessarily talking about female. Like feminine and female, masculine and male are not the same thing. Like everyone has a divine feminine and a divine masculine energy. And it has nothing to do with whether you have a penis or a vagina. It has nothing to do with your career or with it has nothing to do with any of that. It’s just, it’s that yin and yang balance that all of us, that energy that all of us have inside of us and some of us swing more toward the feminine energy and some of us swing more toward the masculine. And, in my relationship with David, we’ve only recently realized that I’ve always swung more masculine and he’s always swung more feminine. And like, when people hear me say that and they might think that my husband is like effeminite or whatever. He’s not. Like he’s a very manly man, but he’s much better at being than I am. He’s a beer. I’m a doer. He’s like slow go with the flow, easy breezy, like sexual, whatever. And I’m more like rigid and controlling and, and all that. and I’m female and I identify as female and he’s male and he identifies as male, but when it comes to those energies, he is more in his feminine and I am more in my masculine. And what I realized in the last year is that I have suppressed this feminine energy and it’s been trying to come out and I’m less and less interested in the doing. And I am so much more interested in the being now and because I’m trying to step into that energy and in that part of myself, that’s created like some shifts in my relationship with David, because we can’t both be in our feminine at the same time. Because then it’s not balanced. And we talked about this in our last episode, we read David Deida’s book The Way of the Superior Man together, and both got a ton out of that book. And ever since then, we’ve been able to do this like very delicate dance where like I’m shifting more into my feminine and David is shifting more into his masculine. Neither of us feels like we’re being untrue to who we really are. I think it was just a product of, for both of us, me being more in my masculine. And him being more in his feminine honestly, was a product more of like how we were raised and who we were told to be or expected to be than it is, who we truly are. So I’ve always been super attracted and interested in pole dancing and like strippers and, Like mother earth and, being a witch and a healer, or that’s always been something that’s called to me, but those things are very feminine qualities and they require a larger amount of being and not doing, which is something that I have not been very good at because part of my trauma is as a child, like my worth was based on my productivity and I was expected to make good grades and expected to be the best at everything that I did. And and so there wasn’t a lot of time to just be, because I was constantly having to like, please my parents and I became a perfectionist. And, and then on the flip side with David, he was allowed to be. Like, his family allowed him to lay in his room on his bed and play the guitar for hours. And, he wasn’t expected to be the best of everything and he was so it’s more of a product of our upbringing than it is. Anyway. That was a lot, and maybe a little bit off topic, but I want to swing back to, for people that have listened to me, list off all of these emotions and then they’re like, Holy shit. That’s a lot of, that’s a lot of stuff. Like you assured me that amount of emotions to be cleared at one time is normal. Can you elaborate on that? MEGAN: It’s very normal. Yeah, most of the time first-time clients will be like, Oh shit, I’m messed up. And I’m like, not at all. No. So that’s very normal list. I would say for clients during one session, I can clear anywhere from like 15 to 20 emotions and then probably anywhere from four to eight body code things and that will come up consistently over and over again. And that is totally normal. Even for I have tons of clients that are children, I obviously don’t work with them directly. I worked through the parent, but, same list, totally normal, completely fine. It’s just human experience. That’s what, it’s not doesn’t mean that you have more trauma than somebody else. That doesn’t mean, that you’re a bad person. Cause you were feeling all these things. It’s just human experience and we all have positive negative, neutral emotions all the time. And it’s completely normal. And, I have people that I have been working with since the beginning of my career, almost nine years ago, still see them once a month and they have lists like that. Totally normal and fine. We are talking about clearing out an entire lifetime and possibly generational, emotions. This is not something that’s going to happen overnight. And then, a lot of my clients, we get to a stopping point and then they come back once a month for a session because they’re continuing to have human experience every day. They’re continuing to feel things every single day. And, so it’s just that tune-up so yeah, a long list is completely normal and, I would be concerned if it wasn’t, I’d be like, all right, who are you? What’s going on? LINDSEY: Okay, excellent. I know that a lot of people listening are into the woo as you and I are. And I know probably just as many people are listening and they’re this is bullshit. Show me the science, show me the research where the third party, double blind placebo controlled studies, show me all of that. And you live in the East and I live in the Midwest, we’ve never met in person, and yet you’ve been able to do this work for me long distance. And so can you speak to that? can you satisfy some curiosities or put some fears or some criticisms, in their place or whatever? MEGAN: Yeah. The way that I like to explain, I like to speak in metaphor to try and help people to simplify this work and help people understand. The same way that I can text somebody literally across the world and it gets there in a moment’s notice and they can read something and have an emotional response towards me, and then they can type something and send it back. And I have an emotional response towards them. That’s what energy is. So I think the rise in technology is just a metaphor for like how we all work anyways. We’re all connected, just like we are now on the phones. We’re all connected to each other. We all, we’re all one in that sense. And so the way I think of this as me and your subconscious we’re texting. That’s what I’m doing with your body is where we’re communicating in that way. And, and yeah, it’s, It’s one of those things that cannot be proved by science, similar to things like the the emotion of love, our emotions. We can’t prove any of that. Those are just human experiences that we can’t particularly put under a microscope and decide what is and isn’t and where it came from and why it’s there and when it’s going to go and. So I think of it like texting I’m on the subconscious level and it’s just, it all comes down to energy and we can shift energy. It doesn’t matter where you are in the planet or if you’re asleep or awake or, it’s all the same on the energy level. So I have other ways I can explain it, but that’s a quick little nutshell. LINDSEY: Yeah. That makes sense to me. I think you were saying that you could do some work on me during this interview. MEGAN: Yes, I would be happy to. Absolutely. We’re, if we’re still working on the hip pain, then that’s really all I need to know. LINDSEY: And I know that whenever you did these first two sessions for me, like I was in less pain than I’m in now. And so that. The work that you did has stirred something up. And so I’m curious as to calm things down and move it out. MEGAN: Yeah, so we just need to keep going. And that’s where I think it’s remembering, that people can get, we’ve been indoctrinated that if something hurts, that means it’s bad or that we’ve done something wrong or whatever. And this is really the body is. Has stirred up some healing for you. and so we’ll just dig a little bit deeper here. For people that are listening, I, what I have in front of me is the emotion code charts. And this is how I find the emotions I use applied kinesiology or muscle testing to figure out what emotions need to be cleared. So even if you don’t have the book, you can just go online and search emotion code chart, and go to images and you’ll find the charts and you’ll see. See what I’m using and then I just tune in to the hip and I ask what’s there and I clear it out. So it’s very simple. It’s very quick, but I will just tune in here real quick and see what we can find. okay. All right. First thing is grief. So we’ll clear that out. That was actually, when we first started talking today, that came to mind was the colon. Because sometimes some lingering hip pain can also be related to the colon. And and of course, grief is related to, and again, for people that are that look like you can see in Chinese medicine, each emotion is correlated to different organs. And so colon and lungs are both connected to grief and that’s the first thing that came up. So I’m not surprised. And so I want to dig a little bit deeper with the colon aspect, because you might just be really emotionally holding onto some shit that needs to go. LINDSEY: So I know about the organ correlations with traditional Chinese medicine and emotions, I’m just throwing this in there as another little tidbit of interesting information. Shortly after we moved to Minnesota, I developed asthma. And never had asthma before in my life, never had a breathing problem. Had a bunch of allergy testing, done all this kind of stuff done. I wasn’t allergic to anything crazy that, like dust mites or whatever, but, anyway, the clearing that I have to do in my throat is that is like where the asthma lives. It’s not so much in my lungs as it is in my throat. but always I get short of breath. So it’s interesting that you mentioned that because whenever you said grief and colon, I automatically knew that the lungs were also connected and. I was after I developed the asthma, like we had just moved here and I wasn’t sure I wanted to stay whenever we moved here, because it was like a whole new world. Geographically, it was completely different. The people were completely different. The food was completely different. Like everything was completely different. And I spent many months like grieving over losing my connection to Texas and being near my mom and my friends and, things like that. And, but it’s even though I don’t grieve over it anymore, I couldn’t be happier to live where we live now, but, that asthma has still never gone away. MEGAN: So interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Yep. It’s all connected. All right. let’s see what else we can clear sadness, which is also under lungs and colon clear that heartache.So wishy-washy, we’ll clear that trusting that one felt interesting to, heartache again, LINDSEY: I’ve used that word to describe myself before really? MEGAN: Okay. Interesting. LINDSEY: back and forth the whole time we’ve been talking people can’t see you, but you, I sway all the time. huh. MEGAN: Yep. That’s yeah, that’s what I thought too. Okay. Interesting.We’ve got a blaming that is inherited so clear that. We’ve got grief, which is absorbed. So an absorbed emotion is one different than inherited were inherited is from, is a generational thing. Absorbed is something that someone else was. It’s an empathic thing. We empathically picked it up from anybody. So we’ll clear thatlove and received clear.All right, discouragement. This is a good one. I can feel this in my body. It’s everything’s tingling. Blaming confusion. these are good ones. Low self-esteem, self abuse, which can be a very wide range of. it can be negative self-talk, to, self sabotage stuff to things like, hurting ourselves. So big, wide range for that. I am definitely my own worst critic. Okay, that is it right now. Let me do body code stuff real quick. See if something can come up here. All right. So colon misalignment, which I knew was there. Why do we have a colon misalignment? What is that? Okay. Colon misalignment is due to a despair anchor. And despair anchor is basically just a negative belief system. Just a dramatic name for it. Okay. Let me clear that. we’ve got another addictive heart energy. This one is absorbed from someone. so that’s not yours originally. Okay. That is it right now. let me just go through and do a quick organ check to make sure everything is where it’s supposed to be. Yes. And a gland check. Everything’s where it’s supposed to be. Yes. All right. So let’s let that settle for a bit. LINDSEY: Okay. I’ve been, after our last chat, I started reading the emotion code and I’m about a third of the way through. And so I haven’t gotten to the part of like how to actually do it yet. But one thing that I noticed that he does pretty consistently, as he asks the subconscious, like at what age the emotion goes back to you. Do you do that at all? MEGAN: So I do. If people want that. So when I first started, it was like there was, or even then, there are certain emotions that need to be identified and age needs to be identified for whatever reason. if it helps the person with some conscious processing, most of the time at this point that doesn’t really come up. I do have some clients who would like to know and so I will do that for some people if they’d like to know. But yeah, again, I don’t like to have people feel like they need to like, cause again, if you give an age, then people are like, Oh my gosh, what was going on? What was that? Does this, is that a repressed memory? Like the psycho-analyzation starts and so I defer away from that simply because I don’t want somebody’s mind to get wrapped in it. Like the whole point of what we’re doing is we’re clearing space. Let’s not fill it with more psycho-analyzing drama. Let’s put something in that cleared space, something fun, something pleasurable. We cleared the emotional baggage from it. It’s over. It’s not anything that needs to be psychoanalyzed. The healing seems to be cleaner when I don’t dig in too far. Cause it’s just not needed. LINDSEY: Yeah. Yeah. It’s not necessary, and that’s the cognitive brain trying to analyze and figure it out. That’s not trusting the body to take care of what it needs to take care of. MEGAN: Totally. Yep. Like there are these tools out there that they’re more powerful than their trauma and just, making, tying it back into pleasure because when we experienced trauma, when we experienced stress, when we just have these normal, unfortunately, normal human experiences, we create all these rules in our head of what is okay and what is not okay. This sexual thing is okay, this is not okay. But I want to do this thing that’s not okay, so I’m a bad person or whatever. Like all these rules about, and again, if it’s wellness trauma, it’s food, Supplements it’s this is okay and that’s not okay. And I can’t swim in this pool cause it has chlorine. And this one I can, cause it seems like, Oh my gosh. And so it’s just getting to that point where we become neutral that all of these things outside of us are okay. If it’s that weird sexual thing you want to do.It’s okay. If it’s that, bad quote, unquote, bad food that you want to eat, it’s okay. If it’s, whatever it is, it’s just getting to this place where everything is okay. And when you’re in a place of feeling and in your body, that everything’s okay, then you can actually make a clear decision about what’s in front of you. Because it’s when we put all these rules on everything and say, this is good, and this is bad. That’s when we start to have that internal, confusion and that internal cognitive dissonance, where it’s they’re saying this is bad and I don’t think that’s bad. And I want to try that, or I want to do that. Or, for me, I wanted to have a career, but I wasn’t supposed to. And there was all this like push pull, push, pull, That’s where everything has to become okay. And when everything’s okay, we can follow our intuition. We can actually hear our intuition. We can follow it. And most of the time that is leading us towards something, that’s going to make us feel good. It’s going to give us pleasure. It’s gonna give us human connection. And a lot of times what we do when we are stuck in our trauma patterns is we do the opposite. We do something that makes us feel bad. We do something that isolates ourselves and disconnects us from others. and then we don’t know why we feel like shit. And it’s because we’re not listening to ourselves. LINDSEY: Yeah, because we’re operating under the hidden programming, the autopilot instead of being on Follies and, as a woman, like this is a great, this is a great conversation topic, and we can shift over to it really fast. Cause why not? But as a woman, if we were really being in our bodies, instead of in our heads, and even for people that weren’t raised in religion, like their sexual issues and repression and trauma and, body hate and criticism and all that, for people who were raised with no religion at all, like that is just a cultural trauma. That’s not specific to people who were raised in religion. But the, the culture or the religion or whatever the authority that you saw was, they don’t want you in your body. They want you in your head. And so like we have, billions of women who are not in our bodies. And so we’ve repressed and suppressed and hurt ourselves and hated ourselves and questioned ourselves and all of that. And, I’m wondering if you could elaborate maybe on, if a woman is like, Yeah. I have been in my head my whole life, but I don’t know how to get into my body. It feels uncomfortable to be in my body. It feels wrong to be in my body. I’m wondering what you could maybe tell her to. Get her at least to dip your toe in the water. Can you tell me, I, tell me, I know that I have all this sexual repression and I’m woke using air quotes. I’m free, but I know these things in my head, but my body does not know these things to be true. So tell me how to tap into that and dip my toe in the water in a way that is connecting with my body and without fear. MEGAN: So all I can speak to is my own experience with this and my own experience. What I have learned, since leaving my marriage and not saying anyone has to leave their marriage to experience this, but that was for me and my experience, like my relationship that needed to dissolve for me to really open up, okay. So for me, what is something I started doing? And hopefully this is not too TMI for a podcast, but here we go. Something I started doing was literally listening to my pussy versus my head. So my head would tell me this is bad, or this is not good, or this is, whatever, and so literally I will put my focus into my root chakra, and that is where I will keep my focus. if I notice that I’m going out of my head, like I will go down to my root chakra and I will sit there and I’ll be like, Okay, what do I need to get back into pleasure? And sometimes it is the weirdest, most random things, but she will respond and I will literally tell my friends. I’m like, I don’t listen to my head anymore. I listen to my vagina. Like she knows better than I do. And. and I think it is surrounding yourself with people that have been through some of the things that you’ve been through and are maybe a little bit farther ahead on the journey of opening back up with pleasure. There have been specific people that have come into my life since my divorce, that have shown me the example of someone who can be in their body and in their pleasure and have no shame for it whatsoever and create this experience around sex, that makes it feel like a very safe, comfortable place to play and explore and to find out more about yourself and to have these really cool emotional experiences and these really deep, intimate connections. And that it’s so about so much more than just orgasm or, whatever. And so I think it’s, that’s all based on my experiences, really like listening to your body and trying to literally take the energy out of your head and say, I’m going to focus on my vagina right now and see what’s going on in there. Or I’m going to focus on my right big toe. Like literally putting your focus somewhere else and seeing like what feels good. Because a lot of times we don’t feel good and it’s because of our thoughts. And so it’s like noticing. Know, Oh my gosh. I’m so uncomfortable. This horrible thing. And it’s really is my right calf, like in pain? And it’s no, absolutely not. My right calf is fine. And then it’s okay, is my left big toe in pain? No, it’s not. It’s actually fine. my body is actually fine. I’m just creating all this in my head. And so if like you’re in a sexual experience where, you are you’re resistance, the pleasure it’s usually in their mind, it’s not the body is usually more open to pleasure than we realize. So I think it’s having time alone. It’s having time to explore it’s experimented with new things. It’s talking to people that have been there and it’s creating a space first within yourself where everything is okay. It’s all okay. And then finding someone, if it’s your spouse or someone to create that experience with another person where everything here is okay. And whatever we want to explore is okay. And, the deeper and deeper you can get into pleasure like the more and more you’re going to open and the more and more you’re going to shed. And it’s. I don’t know, it’s it can be such a beautiful enlivening experience. if, and it’s really just about as the feminine, it’s about opening up and allowing that in releasing control. LINDSEY: Have you ever heard of Asia Suler? And she actually has an online course called the pussy portal and it’s all. Yeah, it’s I haven’t actually taken of course, but I’m on our emails. And so I’ve watched hervideos and stuff about it, and it’s always been something that I’ve wanted to do. Even to the point of she encourages you to like, draw your pussy, and like to hold a mirror down to yourself and look at yourself and connect with that part of yourself and to draw it, to name it, if you want to like, to just really connect and. Have you ever read the book wild, feminine by Tami Lynn Kent? Yeah, so I love that book so much for so many reasons, mostly because I’ve had my own journey with pelvic floor physical therapy and Tammy Lynn is a pelvic floor physical therapist. And so I read that book and it was just the most intuitive pelvic floor physical therapy book. It was not all about like anatomy and exercises and stretches and like Kegels and all those things. It was just, it was more about she actually has women like get out of their heads and put all of their energy and focus into their pelvis. Can you focus on your uterus? Can you focus on your right ovary? And she said, it’s astounding. We need women on trying to, but I keep nothing there. And it’s because the distance between that, they’ve cut themselves off at the neck and they’re just like ahead walking and they, they’re not, they’ve just disconnected from that part of their body. And I think that as, our society in general, like sure. There’s issues around men’s sexuality too, but women especially are we’re taught and expected to be more cut off from part of our body. Because at least for me, the church taught me my body wasn’t mine. My body belongs to my husband and his number one need, and our marriage was going to be sex. And if he didn’t get that need met from me, if I wasn’t doing my wifely duties, then he was going to go find it somewhere else. And I was never taught to figure out what felt good for me or to ask for what I wanted or, even self pleasure was definitely off the table. MEGAN: Yeah. Yeah..And I, I’ll be honest to this day. I still have a hard time with that. and I do, I have to get out of my head and I’d put focus into my root chakra because otherwise I do, I overthink it and overanalyze, it’s really harmful. So I completely get it. And I think that’s the confusion that I know I remember growing up in is my body was a sexual body because it had so much power, but it was like bad to be sexual, but also like it’s so confusing. I can’t even put it into words. It was like, my body was gonna send somebody to hell. Don’t dress sexy because they’re going to have impure thoughts. But also like you need to attract a man, and men just want sex. And it was just, I can’t even, there’s so much disconnect and so much confusion. And I think for me, I’m not speaking to anyone else’s female experience, for me, something I have learned is I’m a lot more sexual than I ever thought I was. And it has just been repressed for so long. and I, when I am in my body, that’s basically all I want to do is just play, explore, let go, be open, have sex, have fun. And there’s nothing wrong with that. And so I think again for you, it’s and for everybody like listening, it’s just. Take everything off the table of good and bad. Like masturbation isn’t bad. Sex toys aren’t bad. BDSM isn’t bad. Like whatever the thing is that you’re saying, Oh, like everything’s fine. Except for that. No, that thing is okay too. And just allowing yourself to say, okay, without any buddy telling me what I’m supposed to do or what I’m not supposed to do without anybody looking without anybody like being a part of my sexuality, just for me, what do I like? What do I want to do? What turns me on what enlivens my pussy, like what makes my brain feel excited? And then follow that. And it can be anything like, and the feminine energy is like when we’re really in our feminine, we are allowing. It’s just we’ve just grown up in so much confusion over our bodies and over sexuality and what you can and can’t do. And if you dress, quote unquote too slutty than your whore and you’re bad. And, but if you dress too modest, then you’re a prude and wearing makeup is good weaering no makeup is good. Like it’s just, it’s so confusing. And it’s just saying, fuck it to all of that. And it’s no, do I like makeup? Do I want to dress like this? Am I sexual? Am I not? Do I not like sex? It’s all fine. And it’s just giving ourselves permission is just permission, over and over and saying that’s okay. That’s okay. That’s okay. You want to have sex? That’s okay. You don’t want to have sex? That’s okay. Just that’s it’s all okay and just reassuring ourselves. LINDSEY: Yeah. And I think also recognizing that your body at different times in your life, it’s going to change. And so what you may have loved and enjoyed, or had a desire for five years ago, or even a year ago, or six months ago, even you don’t necessarily now. And that doesn’t mean that there’s something wrong with you. It just means like you’re listening to your body and you’re not getting in your head about it. And, I, and I’ll be honest, like I’m still, I’ve come a long way and a trauma healing journey. But the, probably the area that I’ve made the least amount of progress in is my sexuality. And there’s just been so many layers. Starting from whenever I was just a little girl, being told that wearing certain types of clothing, Was bad, but like from that early age, to follow the rules and then being a teenager, I always had a boyfriend. I was totally boy crazy. I was very sexual in high school. I had a really nice body like, but because I was in the church, like I can remember, having. Like I was technically a Virgin when I got married. So, I retained my purity as a gift to give my husband on our wedding night, what a crock of shit. I did it, but I always say I was a Virgin, like by the hair of my chinny, chin, done everything else, Yeah. And, but I had never done it without guilt. Like every experience that I’ve ever had with a boyfriend, it was like, even in the moment, I couldn’t just enjoy it. It always had to be about like, we shouldn’t be doing this or good lord Megan, there were, I can’t even tell how many boyfriends, after we would do whatever it was, we would do, we would pray together and ask God to forgive us afterwards. SADISTIC. Like really. And starting as a little girl, and then that was my teenage experience. And then I signed all the purity pledges and the true love waits cards and vowed to preserve my virginity as a gift that I would give my husband on my wedding night. And then I make it all the way to the wedding night. And I guess I just assumed that at some point, like a switch was supposed to flip. And all of the, like I wasn’t ever supposed to think about, talk about, do anything sexual, but then on my wedding night, somehow I was supposed to be sexual. And here I am, we just had our 18th anniversary and here I am 18 years later and I still haven’t figured out how to flip that switch. MEGAN: Yep. LINDSEY: And it’s probably the area of trauma that I have made the least amount of progress in. MEGAN: And that I think is what your hip is calling for right now. That’s the next step for you. And I think, I think it’s recognizing that’s the next step and, and your body is just asking for it and, I think it’s something I have. so maybe this is again, too much or off topic, but, I’ve explored some of the, like the BDSM stuff, more of the BD than the SM, but, I think what’s interesting in that world. And when you are with somebody who is very mature and respectful and holds really good space, that you can explore like these kind of these off topics of like guilt, but make it hot or like shame, but make it hot, and taking these negative experiences that we’ve had and creating pleasure from it. Like taking the guilt and saying either you’re gonna, you’re like you guilt, you can stay out of the room right now. Like you’re not a part of this. Or bring the guilt in and play with it and create, instead of being like, I have this guilt, like just that guilt is there, it’s a third party. And so either it stays out or it comes in and you play with guilt and you talk with guilt and you create an experience with guilt and you turn guilt into something else, like guilt, but make it hot. And exploring some of that has been really healing for me. And it’s also a way that I have been able to allow myself to fall into that feminine opening in a way that I never would have been able to just in a normal sexual experience. Again, it’s about allowing it is like it’s allowing and that’s the word that just keeps coming up. Allowing the pleasure, allowing yourself to explore what you really do or don’t an exploration, do I like sex toys? Do I like this? Do I like that? Do I want to be tied up? Do I like it’s all of it. Like exploring just it’s all neutral. It’s all okay. And it’s allowing to fall into pleasure and some of the BDSM stuff, can be a really healing tool in that. I know that’s completely off topic. But you said it earlier, it’s all connected. We are not just physical beings. We’re sexual beings. We’re spiritual beings where we have an ancestral lineage. Like it’s a, what makes us up as people. And that’s the whole reason why I started this podcast was because I see that a lot of trauma healing resources are inadequate because they’re not addressing the body as a whole. Thing, they’re making it just cognitive. Oh, we’ll just talk about it and do CBT and or we’re doing, we’re going to medicate it or we’re going to whatever. And it’s no, you’re not addressing it as a whole person. So a lot about the emotion code is because the emotion, the emotional piece of us really does impact all of it. If it gets stored or it gets released. And depending on what happens in that trauma and. We don’t have any control over how we react in that moment. LINDSEY: That’s what trauma is, It’s too much, too fast, too soon. but it’s like later with that awareness, we can go back and work with somebody like you, who is actually it doesn’t have to be this hard. Like you don’t have to relive past experiences. You don’t have to remember anything. You don’t have to, feel that anymore. We’re just going to release it, so no, it’s all connected. And I, I love the unscripted nature of our conversations. There’s I have very little to edit out of here, because it’s real and this is. I want my podcast to be like, if somebody was curled up on my couch with a cup of tea, like this is how we were you in, it’s not rehearsed.And, it’s very real and raw and, trauma is real and raw and healing it is also that way. Remind people again, how they can find you and work with you. MEGAN: Yeah. So my website is harmony-restored.com and I am on Instagram at harmony restored. And either, you can send me an email through my website or send me a message on Instagram. That’s the easiest way to contact me. LINDSEY: And you are currently accepting new clients? MEGAN: I am accepting new clients right now. Yes. And there, so we can work together. One-on-one I also have an online course and some webinars and different things that people can get if they are not ready to work one-on-one there’s other options. I love working one-on-one with you. I, it didn’t phase me at all that I felt worse after our two sessions, it’s like sometimes you got to peel the scab off for the wound to heal. Like sometimes you gotta stir up whatever’s has been stuck and for it to move and burn up. And I think you’re so intuitive and you’re so right that like my body is leading me to heal this sexual repression. And so I’m excited. I’m excited to do it. LINDSEY: Yeah, it’s been fun chatting as always. As always having Meghan on the podcast is a great time. She’s so insightful and intuitive. And I love chatting with her. I love working with her. If you are interested in working with Megan Buer, every place that you can contact her is going to be listed in the show notes of this episode. You can find show notes at lindseylockett.com/Podcast. And this is episode 16. I’ll have all those links there for you. As always you can find me on instagram @iamlindseylockett. [OUTRO MUSIC]
